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When you worry that you're missing out on something by not making both choices simultaneously by quantum superposition, that's called phomo.

Journeyman Geek

05:23

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Petəíŕd the Wizard

05:48

@Twineee-MissesShadow-Wizard no

I'm not going to reply to your messages that do not ask for anything constructive here from now on

cocomac

06:10

@Wollzy Well... I'm not personally familiar with it, but I dug up this chat message, so while I'm not sure, my guess would be "kinda"

Feb 28, 2018 at 9:55, by Travis J

I once wrote an automated kickmute userscript, which worked essentially as a manual ban. It would kick the user and then bin their message automatically. Got in trouble for being a little too heavy handed though...

Journeyman Geek

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PM 2Ring

09:55

@Tinkeringbell Nice clock. How often does it need winding? Did it sit in storage for a long time, unwound?

Tinkeringbell

@PM2Ring It sat in mom's display cabinet for years, without being wound, yes. I gave it a tentative wind the first time and it lasted from Friday evening (say 9PM) until Sunday morning, 1:30 AM ;-)

I wound it a bit more this time, so we'll see ;-)

But according to mom's memory, having to wind it up each week is about right ;-)

PM 2Ring

@Tinkeringbell Ok. 8 days between windings is pretty common. It might be an idea to get it serviced, but that could be expensive.

Tinkeringbell

@PM2Ring Yep, getting it serviced one day is on my list of things to get done once I have 'spare' money (right now all the spare money is going into a 'buying the car fund', after that it will go into a 'buy a battery' fund, then there's also the 'buy an e-bike fund' ....) :P

PM 2Ring

It probably doesn't have much accumulated gunk inside, since it was inside a cabinet.

Tinkeringbell

For now, it seems to work fine, the pendulum needs a little tweaking... There's a screw to make it longer/shorter so time goes slower/faster... it was a bit slow, losing about a minute a day, but it seems I have now made it a bit too fast.... it seems to now gain half a minute a day XD

@PM2Ring Yep, it looks pretty clean! It's mostly just lightly tarnished. The stuff under the glass was already much less tarnished than that base, probably because it was less exposed to oxygen.

PM 2Ring

10:02

Give it a week or two to get used to running again.

Was it ever exposed to cigarette smoke? Or other smoke?

Tinkeringbell

Pffft, patience is not my strongest point :P

@PM2Ring Probably? Somewhat? I dunno...

The thing has a bit of a story.

My mom got it as her inheritance from her grandmother. BUT! She swears her grandmother used to have a similar one, but with those little balls instead of a pendulum? You know what I mean?

And that this one was instead not her grandmothers, but "aunt Dinie's".

And that aunt Dinie swapped the two before mom got to 'select' it. She has her sister, my aunt, backing her up on that, so I'm tempted to believe it :P

I know there was smoking at my grandmother's place, it was pretty common for everyone to smoke inside at that day/age, and mom has stories about glasses with cigarettes being on the table at birthdays, like we serve snacks :P

I do not know if aunt Dinie's place was any different.

PM 2Ring

Yep. Those balls are part of a balance wheel. Like a pendulum, but rotating in a horizontal plane. So the ticking rate isn't determined by the gravitational acceleration.

Tinkeringbell

At the very least, there was also smoking inside our house when I was very little, mostly just during birthdays though. And the clock has always been inside the display cabinet as far as I know.

PM 2Ring

When clocks run continuously, the wear & tear, and any gunk gets spread around evenly. When they sit unused, there's obviously no mechanical wear, but gunk & corrosion isn't so evenly spread. So that impacts the smooth functioning, and can accelerate wear when you start using the clock again.

Tinkeringbell

@PM2Ring Yep. To be honest, if the story is true, I'm a bit disappointed because it means I missed out on an even cooler clock ;-)

@PM2Ring I hope there's very little gunk at least, since it's been in a display cabinet + under that glass for as long as I can remember, and mom was rather meticulous in keeping dust out of that cabinet :P

PM 2Ring

10:11

I'm not an expert on mechanical clocks, but I know a little bit, and I've lnown a couple of watchmakers.

Tinkeringbell

But yeah, it should probably get serviced at some point, and I'm definitely getting that done. I've also considered taking a course in servicing clocks, there seems to be one nearby that lets you bring your own clock for the course :D

PM 2Ring

@Tinkeringbell It's probably ok. It won't destroy itself. But a clockmaker would be able to verify that. And give it a clean.

Tinkeringbell

Yeah! I've seen that clock/watchmaker on that BBC show, 'The Repair Shop', do some amazing cleaning :D I want the cogwheels from my clock to be just as shiny, one day :D

PM 2Ring

One of my favourite old-school websites belongs to Tom Van Baak. He's American, but he obviously has a Dutch name. :) He's a self-confessed time hacker. He's got lots of clocks, from mechanical to atomic.

His best pendulum clock is so precise that he can use it to detect the tidal effect of the Sun & Moon on the pendulum, by comparing it to an atomic clock.

Tinkeringbell

O.o

PM 2Ring

10:17

He & his kids used a couple of atomic clocks to detect gravitational time dilation at the top of a mountain.

Tinkeringbell

He's a cool dad. I wish mine was as cool :P

(though I probably would've whined if mine had made me climb a mountain :P)

PM 2Ring

His home page: leapsecond.com The relativity page: leapsecond.com/great2005

@Tinkeringbell They used a car, and stayed in a nice hotel. :)

Tinkeringbell

Heh, that sounds better ;)

PM 2Ring

But previously he did try climbing a mountain with an atomic clock, nefore deciding that was a dumb idea. :)

Tinkeringbell

Lol!

PM 2Ring

10:25

First Atomic Clock Wristwatch

:D

Tinkeringbell

Yeah, that doesn't count :P It's clearly a whole 'forearm watch' not a 'wrist' watch :P

PM 2Ring

We now have atomic clock chips. They aren't quite as accurate as the bigger clocks, but they're a lot more portable. But they aren't cheap.

Until the 1960s, precision timekeeping was essentially a branch of astronomy. But atomic clocks have made that obsolete. Almost. People still want time to be connected with the rotation of the Earth, not totally determined by atomic vibrations.

Tinkeringbell

Hehehe was that a dig at leap days/seconds? :P

PM 2Ring

Yes. There's a lot of pressure to abandon leapseconds. If that happens, the day will gradually drift out of synch with the Sun.

Tinkeringbell

I don't mind leap seconds.

Just get rid of DST first ;-)

PM 2Ring

10:39

It won't make much difference for centuries. But eventually 12:00 Greenwich time will happen around midnight at Greenwich. That would be a bit weird.

@Tinkeringbell Definitely. DST is ridiculous. It kind of made sense when lighting was a major consumer of energy, but not these days.

Tinkeringbell

Though, if I got to pick, I'd say keep the summer (DST) time :P I like having more light in the evenings, when I don't have to work :P

Just don't switch 'back' to winter time

PM 2Ring

Industrial & commercial air-conditioning consumes a lot of energy, but it tends to be more efficient than domestic aircon. And business tends to get cheaper energy rates because they buy lots of it. But with DST in hot climates, people go home & turn on their home aircons an hour earlier than they would without DST.

Tinkeringbell

"And business thends to get cheaper energy rates because they buy lots of it"... ooooh don't get me started there! :P

It shouldn't be cheaper for those that use a lot, if you ask me :P

The rest I can agree with ;-)

It's partially why I got a 'get a battery' on my savings list. I want to be able to run my aircon on solar power, during the night ;-)

It already runs on solar during hot days, but the nights are still a bit problematic

PM 2Ring

A battery will definitely make a big difference.

Tinkeringbell

Yep! I just didn't have the money to do it all at once when I got solar + aircon last year.

And I really, really, really wanted aircon :P

PM 2Ring

10:51

We had a pretty mild summer this year. But it's the middle of autumn now, and still fairly warm. In fact they're predicting a max of 28°C on Sunday!

Tinkeringbell

That's heatwave hot, not fairly warm :P

Summer over here was a bit milder than the few years before it too, though. It had a few hot days, I think 2/3 heatwaves, but not as much and blisteringly long as the year before that. It's now early spring here, and warm for the time of year today, 20 degrees C

It's going to be less warm for the rest of the week though, and they're predicting some thunderstorms for later this afternoon.

PM 2Ring

Yeah. It's mostly been a max of 21° or 22° for the last few weeks. But we keep getting these occasional weird extra hot days. It's not like the climate I grew up with...

Tinkeringbell

Definitely true.

Petəíŕd the Wizard

11:55

@PM2Ring it's cold nowadays, some days ago we had snow with 3°-6° C, today it's windy and 10 °C. They don't predict temperatures more than 24 °C anytime soon.

Twineee -Misses Shadow- Wizard

12:55

@PetəíŕdtheWizard I hope this counts as constructive: How come you suddenly hate me and won't tell me why?

Journeyman Geek

13:26

In happier, less dramatic news

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Q: Chat link being added to left navigation bar

You may have noticed that over the last several weeks, we ran an experiment that added a link to chat on Stack Overflow and some Stack Exchange sites in an attempt to make it more visible to site members. We'll be adding the navigation bar link to the remaining Stack Exchange sites this week and ...

YAY

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Journeyman Geek

15:01

I'm a little past that but I'm amused by nice numbers and...

is a nice number :D

Petəíŕd the Wizard

15:43

@Twineee-MissesShadow-Wizard you're purposefully evading account deactivations after you've been told countless times to stop being annoying

Journeyman Geek

<_<

Tinkeringbell

Is that... something that needs a mod to intervene? Or staff? Have you raised flags/contacted the proper 'authorities' for that? Or is it just something that's annoying you but not technically breaking any rules? :)

Journeyman Geek

ya, I was going to say - if there was suspension evasions going on, you might want to report it properly, rather than well, here?

Petəíŕd the Wizard

@Tinkeringbell well, I'm afraid that's not anything you can influence, it's on our other chat. :)

@JourneymanGeek see above

Journeyman Geek

Ah in which case I'd invoke the vegas rule

Tinkeringbell

15:46

@PetəíŕdtheWizard As in, off SE? Yeah, I can't really be any help there :/

Journeyman Geek

please don't drag in off site arguements here

Petəíŕd the Wizard

Twineee is more or less okay on SE

@JourneymanGeek yeah, I just answered Twineee.

Glorfindel

@JourneymanGeek solution: post a 200 rep bounty

Journeyman Geek

You always have the option of blocking

Tinkeringbell

And yeah, I'd prefer to have what happens there stays there, and if someone doesn't want to interact too much or anything, for both parties to respect that :)

Journeyman Geek

15:47

@Glorfindel lol. I'm at like 200 260 or something now soooo

its a nice repeating number tho

Tinkeringbell

@PetəíŕdtheWizard No worries about that, at all :) Glad to hear I don't "need" to do anything :)

Petəíŕd the Wizard

@JourneymanGeek blocking doesn't work when one just creates another accounts and hides their e-mail (which the site allows, stupidly enough, so that not even owners can view it)

Journeyman Geek

@PetəíŕdtheWizard I mean here :D

Petəíŕd the Wizard

Anyway, thanks for suggesting to help :)

Glorfindel

@JourneymanGeek 250 works too, I can unupvote something :P

Journeyman Geek

15:48

there... not my monkeys, not my circus, and I'm noooot sure if I want to know if the carnival is in town

@Glorfindel naw, I'll wait for the next one :D

Tinkeringbell

@PetəíŕdtheWizard No problem. If they do decide to bother you about this kinda stuff on here again, lemme know. That shouldn't happen :)

CC @Twineee-MissesShadow-Wizard so you know not to do that again. Keep what happens off-site, off SE and don't use SE to try and sort out your problems elsewhere.

V2Blast

17:28

@MetaAnnouncements Awesome!

@JourneymanGeek The bot beat you to it :P

Twineee -Misses Shadow- Wizard

19:12

@Tinkeringbell I can't use email and he kicked me off his off-SE chat site, so no where else.

@JourneymanGeek I need more of this

Tinkeringbell

@Twineee-MissesShadow-Wizard Okay, then nowhere else it is. Here isn't the place either from now on.

Twineee -Misses Shadow- Wizard

20:04

@JourneymanGeek carnival is not in town.

lidraughts?

@Tinkeringbell Remembering back, we do have a chat on a checkers website.

Tinkeringbell

20:35

When I said not in here, I meant it. Stop contacting him about that stuff in here!

Kevin B

21:09

👀

Journeyman Geek

22:43

@V2Blast I'm more excited than the bot about this :D

Its part of a long time feature request, and the 'easiest' of the things I am hoping to see

Journeyman Geek

22:56

(I'd like to see per site metas there too)

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23:51

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