@Tinkeringbell That article says that an oscillator generates the audio signal, but it doesn’t mention the speaker. This article is what I was looking for, it shows a simple 8Ω speaker.
while i do not necessarily like the writing style of that post I am admit that I am not really opposed to the idea itself, some form of "contest-mode" could be rather useful in user activation through gamification.
@A-Tech As Geek said, bit of history. But I fully believe this user is serious, and not intending any fun. So don't treat it as 'we hate fun', or give it the 'leeway' you'd give to a 'fun' post :)
Hey all! As I think most know, the Chat experiment has been going and I am wondering if anyone had any feedback or observations on things that have happened. Any surprising or positive experiences by new comers joining? Anything less than ideal? Free to share anything you have noticed.
i've enjoyed seeing new faces, but so far noone's really stuck around that i can tell, at least in my rooms. but also if there's no discussion happening it's not exactly surprising that noone's discussing things :p
The vast majority of new users I've seen drop in, say "hi" and that's it. I mean, the JS room isn't bustling but the same seems to happen in livelier rooms I'm in - C# and Python. I think I saw only one person try to ask something.
@EmmaBee I echo what kevin and vlaz said. a lot of existing rooms with activity on SO are curation related. the others are language related. there aren't a lot of active chit chat rooms. I think new visitors seeing something like shadow's den could be nice- there's chit chat, someone friendly to talk to, and the word association game.
the meta room has some chit chat, but it's not the same vibe- probably because it also has meta discussion (and is mostly meta discussion), which I don't expect visitors to be that interested in, or maybe even to understand.
@EmmaBee personally, it was kind of offputting to see new people drop into SO's meta room and suddenly try to spawn a discussion about some tech topic or ask what country I'm in, but that's because I'm used to just seeing the same faces in the room all the time, and I avoid putting personal info in chat.
@Tinkeringbell I know you likely cannot talk about this, but can you even give us a hint as to why @ShadowWizzard was suspended for 100 years? He'll be 146 when he get's out :|
@TwineeeThePickleWizard We don't discuss suspensions. I'm sorry. All I can tell you is that staff were involved (which is obvious from the suspension being network-wide, something we can't do).
@VLAZ That's interesting that even in the livelier rooms there's not a lot past the "hi". Any ideas for what might be missing to draw out conversation? Or ideas for what could get folks over the hump?
@starball Hmm yes, you raise a good point that it really needs to be clear what the expectations are for different chat rooms. I know folks use Discord a lot, do all chat rooms have this issue with new comers, or do some handle this better, that you know of?
@KevinB What did you try turning into a discussion?
@EmmaBee Not much, TBH. I'd expect them to jump in with something if they just said "Hi". Maybe they wait for a response? But even when somebody gets one, they don't tend to follow back with anything. So, I genuinely am not sure. I'm not super well-versed in chatroom etiquette, TBH. To me, you either start talking in the room or you lurk. The "hi" with nothing else is just odd.
Hmm yes. I'm going to check with the Code Golf folks too and see if this is a pattern throughout the network of people awkwardly interjecting or simply lurking. They seem to have lots of newcomers all the time, so maybe they have a solution for this already.
@Spevacus While I recognize the reason is private, can you share if this room will become public again? I ask as I was running a bot there (now stopped) and IIRC there were other ROs. Totally understand if you can't share it though
@EmmaBee I think they'd need to find a room where they and the people in the room share some topic that they want to talk about. that might mean doing some lurking first to see what sorts of conversations happen that they want to join in on.
@EmmaBee I think chatroom descriptions can do that to the extent that it fits the character limit. but what I was saying in my earlier comment was just about my personal feelings / internal reaction rather than any sort of hard or soft room rules. though hypothetically, if everyone else in the room felt the same way as me, it would essentially be an unspoken soft room rule.
@VLAZ I just see the "hi" and then nothing as under the umbrella of lurking
@starball Yep, you're probably right. Also different personalities. Some people may jump in, some may lurk a bit and then participate, others might only lurk.
@starball I mean, if a chatroom name/purpose is confusing that could be an issue. And that's why I framed it as a culture issue
is "SU spam reporting room" likely to get me better outcomes than "Artisan Spammer Cannery and Loanshark Hunting Grounds" or "Root Access" vs "<site> general room"?
@EmmaBee I agree with @starball , but in addition, some have a website with rules, e.g., SOCVR socvr.org/faq.html Obviously, that's not a reasonable solution for most rooms, but in some cases, it's useful.
